Monday, March 2, 2009

Question #17

In Act IV, Friar Lawrence devises a plan to reunite Romeo and Juliet. Do you think his plan was the best way of bringing the couple together? Why? If Juliet had gone to you for advice, what advice would you have given her?

In Act V, Romeo & Juliet's death brings peace between the two feuding families. Was their death necessary to cease the feud? Explain.

28 comments:

Stacey said...

I think that Romeo and Juliet shouldnt have done it in the first place. What were they thinking that just because they got married everything would change. I wouldn't know the first thing to tell her.

I think that this was the only reason they ended the feud. Otherwise, there stupidess would keep them fighting. Or Shakespeare didn't feel like writing anymore. (:

GabrielD said...

I do not think that Friar Lawrence's plan was the best to bring them together. I think this because faking your death is a very serious thing, and who knows what could happen.

If Juliet had come to me then i would have told her to announce to everyone that she and Romeo are married.

I don't think that their death was necessary to end the feud. If Juliet would have just told the families they were married i think this could have been avoided.

GabrielD said...

Responses:

1. I agree with Stacy that romeo and Juliet shouldn't have done it in the first place.

2. I agree with Stacy that just because they were married didn't necessarily mean things would change.

3. I disagree with Stacy that they didn't have to die ti end the feud. and Shakespeare did not "not feel like writing." >:(

+ alexis said...

I don't agree with Friar Lawrence's plan. From the moment he spoke of the plan, I knew something bad would happen. So many things could have gone wrong with it. There could have been a more safe, reliable way to bring the couple together.

If Juliet would have come to me for advice, I wouldn't know what to tell her because if I told her to go along with the marriage with Paris, she would be unhappy. If I told her to announce to everybody that she's already married to her family's enemy, that could also cause a major issue.

I think that Romeo and Juliet's death was the only way that the two families could have stopped the feud. Only the death of their daughter and son made them realize that the entire quarrel between the families was stupid and a waste of time. I don't think they would have stopped the hatred otherwise.

marissas said...

The plan was freat to me. I think i wouldve never been clever enough to make that one up and i truly think it will work it is well devised.I wouldve said too bad because i wouldve never made something up like that .So she wouldve had to marry him.

I still dont believe it brought totall peace between two familys .I think they still were mad at eachother but dforgot it for the moment. I think their death was neccesary because they were to immature to just ignore eachother.

I agree with stacey they shouldve never gotten married.

I disagree with gabriel and i think their death was necesary to cease the feud because the fmailys are so immature.

I disagrree wtih stacey i dont think shakespear didnt want to write anymore.

MelissaA said...

I dont think that his plan was the best one, but it would have worked nicely if Romeo had received the letter in time.
If Juliet had gone to me for advice, i would have told her to follow her heart and be with Romeo, no matter what others think or say. Run away with him and start a new life.

I think that their death was necessary to bring the peace, and also unecessary. Death shouldn't be a reason to end a family feud, they should've dont that on their own.

alysem said...

I would've told her confession time has come and she should go tell her parents.Maybe the feud would've come to an ending because the two of them fell in love. Sometimes things are not meant to be and you learn that the hard way, but it will make you stronger in the end.

I think that the feud between the two families was so intense that there may have not been any other way to end the feud between both families. Also, taking into consideration that this is a dramatic play so this dramatic ending was the only way.

alysem said...

1. I agree with Melissa when she says follow your heart and just run away with him.

2.I agree with Alexis is saying either way something will go wrong. It's a situation where your caught between a rock and a hard plate.

3.I agree with Stacey when she says that giving advice to Juliet would be hard.

Stacey said...

Responses:
1. I disagree with Gaby, i think Friar plan was the best they could have done.

2. I disagree with Alexis of how the couple could of brought the couple together.

3. I agree with Marissa, the death didnt bring total peace.

StefanieG said...

I think Friar's plan is too sensitive to too many factors. So many things can go horribly wrong. Timing is extremely vital to this plan. I personally think it's a little too risky considering it deals with death and love.
If Juliet asked me for advice,since I have no experience, the only thing I can offer is listen to your heart and think thoroughly of all consequences.
Death should never be the answer to ending a feud. However, I do think it was necessary because if that wouldn't have happened they would have continued their lives of hatred because there was no reason to change. Both parties should have been mature enough to discuss the issue. After all, they only lived a feud on from the past generations. They should fight their own fight.
Responses:
Stacey and Gaby: They may not have known that they would have died but I would much rather die being married to the person I love.
Stacey: I'm sure Shakespeare would not be so lazy as to stop writing because he didn't "feel like it"!
Marissa: I agree with you, the families were so immature. However, you also persuaded me to think they just temporarily forgot it.

Anonymous said...

i think that it wouldve been alot easier to just have friar lawrence tell the capulet family that juliet was buried were she was supposed to be and then take juliet to mantua to make believe she was getting buried there and then romeo and juliet could live in mantua.

i think they needed to die to end the feud because when tybalt and mercutio died the families hated each other even more and it took the death of what both families loved the most to realize that the fight is not worth it, and its not.

1. i do not agree with stacey at all when she says they should of never gottten married. how are you going to tell two people that are in love not to. thats not a smart answer. and why would shakespeare not feel like writing you sound like micheal ronaldo when you say that.

2.i agree and disagree with gabriel because telling the parents coulve either been really bad or good. if juliet wouldve told her parents her dad wouldve probably hurt her or in time accepted it. same thing for the montegue family

3. i dont agree with gabriel in agreeing with stacey or anybody else that does. how are you going to tell two people that are in love not to love. thats a stupid answer >:0

tiffanyc said...

I think that it was a great plan if it had worked out. Her family was obviously not going to let her out of their sight, so to pretend she was dead was the best. Maybe she could have ran away, but that's probably harder to do. If she had asked me, I would have told her to come to my house and me and her would run to Mantua. If she didn't go for that plan, I would have said for her to go to the wedding and tell them the truth. If her love for Romeo was as strong as they said, she would risk her father disowning her easily.

I don't think their death was what they needed to cease the feud. Maybe if they would have told their parents, they would have to stop because they are family.They would be in-laws and they love their children. If they loved their children, they would do as they ask. Sadly in this case, it didn't happen quite that way.

tiffanyc said...

Responses:

I agree with Gabriel that she should have announced it to everyone.

I agree with Alexis that the family would have figured their fighting as the waste of time.

I agree with Marissa that maybe the family didn't stop fighting but they calmed it for the moment.

Elizabeth said...

I think Friar Lawrence's plan was a horrible idea. He should have noticed that Juliet and Romeo never had the best of luck and as a holy man, never should have given Juliet the potion. Personally I think there were many different options besides that one that would have been way better.

If Juliet had come to me I would probably tell her to convince her parents that she was happy about the marriage, just like she did in the book. She would convince her mom and her nurse that she wanted to sleep alone (like in the book) and in the middle of the night climb out her balcony window and sneak away to Friar Lawrence's cell like Romeo did the night before. From there she would run away to Mantua and live a good life with Romeo.

I actually do think this death was necessary to kill the feud. As we say earlier in the play, at least three people had to die before Romeo and Juliet did. Even then the families didn't end their feud. If they had found out about Romeo and Juliet's marriage they would have forced them apart. They would forbid them to ever see each other again and get a divorce. Eventually thought they would have killed themselves anyway because they were forced apart so either way they will die and the families won't reconcile until then.

Elizabeth said...

Responses:

1. I agree with Gabriel that faking her death was bad thing and many things can go wrong (as they did).

2. I disagree with Stacey when she said that Shakespeare just didn't want to write anymore. With all the writing he did in his life the last thing he wanted to do was stop doing something he loved.

3. I agree with Alexis that Romeo and Juliet's death was the only way for the families to reconcile. Their hatred was too deep to be reconciled any other way.

Melissa =) said...

I do not agree with Friar Lawrence's plan. There were to many risks and things that could go wrong. They already had everything go wrong before that and I wouldn't risk it all again with his plan.

If Juliet came to me, I would've told her to tell her parents about the marriage. I'm not sure how they would have reacted but maybe it would've been positive,it's better than pretending to die and put your family in pain.

I'm not sure if Romeo and Juliet's deaths were necessary to end the feud. It all depends on how the parents would react when they found out that Romeo and Juliet were in love. I don't know the families well enough to know.

1.I agree with Stacey, Romeo and Juliet weren't thinking correctly when they thought the marriage would change everything.
2.I agree with Gabriel, faking your death is a very serious thing and I'm against it.
3.I agree with MelissaA. Death shouldn't be the reason to end a feud. She's right, the families should have done that on their own.

donw said...
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donw said...

I do think his plan was the best way of bringing the couple together. He did not have many different choices to choose from so the best thing he thought of at the moment was to fake Juliet's death and wait for Romeo to run away with her. I would have given her the same advice if i was in the same position as Friar Lawrence was in. I think that his plan was well thought out, but it did not go as according to plan.

I think that the families were so absorbed by their hatred for one another that nothing could break the hatred other then the deaths of Romeo and Juliet. I feel that it may have been a little harsh for them to die just to bring peace, but if Romeo and Juliet would not have died and ended the feud of the families, then the Capulets and Montagues would live on forever hating eachother.

donw said...

1. I disagree with GabrielD. I think that Friar devised the best plan he could have possibly made with the circumstances at hand.

2. I agree with Alexis. I do think that the only way to end the feud between the two families is take away their most precious possessions, their offsprings.

3. I disagree with Marissa. I think that death may have brought alot of sorrow and regret, but with it, it broke the tension between the two families permanently.

Anonymous said...

If i was the Friar, i dont know what i would have told her. I probably would have disguised her, taken her to Mantua, and then never come back to the city. Eventually i would spread a rumor that both i and Juliet died and that would have been the end of it. I wouldn't have made such a complicated plan that required everything to be perfect for it to work.

I do think that their death was necessary to end the feud. If they would have told their parents, they would have gotten more infuriated with each other and probably disown their children. The death of the Capulet's and Montague's children made them realize that there are much more important things than their fighting.

RESPONSES:
1. I agree with Alexis when she says, "So many things could have gone wrong with Friar Lawrence's plan. There could have been a more safe, reliable way to bring the couple together. "

2. I agree with MelissaA when she says, "I think that their death was necessary to bring the peace, and also unecessary."

3. I agree with stefanie when she says, "I think Friar's plan is too sensitive to too many factors. So many things can go horribly wrong."

+ alexis said...

I agree with Alyse that the feud between the families was so intense that there probably was no other way to end the feud but the death of their children.

I agree with Elizabeth. I didn't like Friar Lawrence's plan at all.

I agree with Gabriel because so many things can go wrong when you fake your death; that's a really serious matter.

MelissaA said...

I agree with Alyse when she said that Juliet should tell her parents, confession time has come.

MelissaA said...

I agree with Stefanie that timing is extremely vital for the Friar's plan.

MelissaA said...

I agree with Melissa that it probably would have been better to tell her parents, than pretend to be dead and put her family through pain.

Khriss; said...

The plan i think was pretty good, but really extreme. I mean, couldn't the Friar just arrange for her to runaway instead of having her fake her death. He's basically putting the family through hell by making them think their daughter is dead, especially on her wedding day. The advice I would have given her, if she was going through with the Friar's plan would be to trust in fate. If her and Romeo were meant to be, it would happen. If not, everything happens for a reason.

They're death I think was necessary because it showed them that even among all the chaos and hatred, Romeo and Juliet were able to find love, and in honor of that brave risk, they made peace.

Khriss; said...

i agree with eddie agreeing with gabriel. i think them getting married was fine.

i disagree with stacey, like everyone else. Shakespeare's a pretty morbid guy. I don't think he got tired of writing, haha.

I agree with vicky agreeing with melissa a when she says, "I think that their death was necessary to bring the peace, and also unecessary."

brontie said...

I think friar lawrence made the wrong decision because the odds of that plan happening are slim to none. There were many things that could go wrong that did actually go wrong eventually. If juliet came to me, I would have told her to escape to my cell and stay until I could tell Romeo so u can avoid marrying Paris.

I think their death wasn't necissary to bring peace in the families. If they would of told the parents about the marrige earlier, eyeryone would still be alive and be happy and peaceful. Instead, almost everyone in the story is dead.

brontie said...

I agree with stacey about Romeo and Juliet not getting married but I think they should of waited

I think that Gabriel is right when he says Juliet should of told everyone of her secret marrige

I disagree with alexis about their death being the only solition to peace.